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Evgenio
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« Reply #310 on: 19.11.18 , 23:11 »
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здається це безпересадковий вагон Львів-Вроцлав, який зараз катається - Львів 16-55, Перемишль 20-06
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« Reply #311 on: 24.11.18 , 18:11 »
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З плакатного розкладу вдається "витягти" уривки Львів 23:40 - 3:40 Перемишль і Перемишль 0:46 - Львів 5:40
Yes, but the Poles also mention a through wagon to Kyiv. The question is what is going to take it to Kyiv. The Poles say by train 750 (meaning 749), but waiting some 5-6 hours for 749 doesn't seem to be a feasible option.
(I understand that arrival at 5:40 reestablishes the opportunity of change from the overnight from Poland to the morning IC+ from Lviv til Kyiv that existed at some point when the IC departed Lviv at 7:00, but we are talking overnight long distance travel here. Maybe the "Kiev" car will just be left in Lviv. )
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« Reply #312 on: 24.11.18 , 23:11 »
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там не цілком ясно що буде з нічним поїздом зі Львова в Польщу. З плакатного розкладу вдається "витягти" уривки Львів 23:40 - 3:40 Перемишль і Перемишль 0:46 - Львів 5:40


Просветите плз, а что єто за поезд? На УЗ букинге его (пока) не вижу. Или на ПКП интерсити его смотреть? Или на когда?
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« Reply #313 on: 24.11.18 , 23:11 »
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https://beta.portalpasazera.pl
Там он есть. После 9ого. Это 51й. По новому-старому.
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« Reply #314 on: 25.11.18 , 00:11 »
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З плакатного розкладу вдається "витягти" уривки Львів 23:40 - 3:40 Перемишль і Перемишль 0:46 - Львів 5:40
Yes, but the Poles also mention a through wagon to Kyiv. The question is what is going to take it to Kyiv. The Poles say by train 750 (meaning 749), but waiting some 5-6 hours for 749 doesn't seem to be a feasible option.
well, I afraid with 749/750 and yes, with huge overstaying in Lviv in both directions.

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(I understand that arrival at 5:40 reestablishes the opportunity of change from the overnight from Poland to the morning IC+ from Lviv til Kyiv that existed at some point when the IC departed Lviv at 7:00, but we are talking overnight long distance travel here. Maybe the "Kiev" car will just be left in Lviv. )
Johannes, we don't know real reason of appearance of new direct car Kyiv. It can be not for passengers travelling between Kyiv and Poland but more for technical needs.

 For example hypothetical reason can be the wish to push back leopolitans from serving Lviv - Wroclaw car. I don't know exactly it's only my speculation because I've heard rumors kinda leopolitan train attendants was caught on participation in smuggling more often than their colleagues from Kyiv-Pas, so the whole depot Lviv waggon depot is threaten as human material more prone to participation in smuggling). In such situation I would not surprise if UZ decide make both Kyiv - Wroclaw and Lviv - Wroclaw to be served by Kyiv-pas depot (with operation Kyiv - Wroclaw - Lviv - Wroclaw - Kyiv). In such case carrying this car in 749/750 - it's just return to home depot, no matter, convenient timetable for through passengers or with whole passenger change in Lviv.
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« Reply #315 on: 25.11.18 , 00:11 »
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там не цілком ясно що буде з нічним поїздом зі Львова в Польщу. З плакатного розкладу вдається "витягти" уривки Львів 23:40 - 3:40 Перемишль і Перемишль 0:46 - Львів 5:40


Просветите плз, а что єто за поезд? На УЗ букинге его (пока) не вижу. Или на ПКП интерсити его смотреть? Или на когда?
Це потяг Львів-Вроцлав з ВБС Львів-Гдиня.  Квитки лише в
міжнародних касах, онлайн не продають.
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« Reply #316 on: 25.11.18 , 00:11 »
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з нового графіка буде просто до Варшави замість Триміста.
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« Reply #317 on: 25.11.18 , 01:11 »
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О,  його таки вирішили скоротити до Варшави.
Мене дивує,  що ні УЗ,  ні РКР не збільшує схему 51/52, адже попит на нього завжди є. 
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« Reply #318 on: 26.11.18 , 00:11 »
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Johannes, where did you get that picture from?
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« Reply #319 on: 28.11.18 , 00:11 »
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Here. Go down to
EIE 8307/6
IC MALCZEWSKI
and scroll to the right (hold the cursor over the wagon picture to get additional info).
I got the link from this forum here.

Thank you, Maxy, the Kyiv-turnaround "oborot" theory seems plausible.
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