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« Reply #20 on: 18.09.17 , 13:09 »
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A bit on the scope of the upcoming upgrades of the PKP PLK Medyka - Przemysl line:
"Prace dotyczą zarówno toru normalnego (880 m) jak i szerokiego (11,8 km) po polskiej stronie. Ponadto projekt zakłada wydłużenie czterech torów o 200 m (do 1050 m), co zapewni możliwość przyjmowania dłuższych składów towarowych z Ukrainy oraz szybszego odprawiania pociągów."
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/wieksze-inwestycje-plk-przy-granicy-z-ukraina-77394.html
http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/250-mln-zl-na-lepsza-obsluge-przejsc-granicznych-78655.html
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« Reply #21 on: 18.09.17 , 13:09 »
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Yes, not all, but i think UZ has them enough to cover cars to Gdynia, Wroclaw and Wien.

Will 160 km/h be needed between Przemysl and Gdynia?

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« Reply #22 on: 18.09.17 , 13:09 »
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150 - 160 km/h seems to be the new operational standard for PKP intercity (long distance trains) on the Rzesow - Krakow leg and Krakow - Warsaw - Gdansk is a core part of the 66 billion Zloty Polish railway upgrade overhaul, so yes, I will assume so.
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« Reply #23 on: 18.09.17 , 14:09 »
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Yes, not all, but i think UZ has them enough to cover cars to Gdynia, Wroclaw and Wien.

Will 160 km/h be needed between Przemysl and Gdynia?

Regards, ULF

Warszawa - Gdansk is almost whole for 160 km/h already, and also Opole - Wroclaw and Koluszki - Warszawa (the train with UZ car to Gdynia doesn't go via main CMK Katowice - Warszawa line, but via western line via Czestochowa). Maybe some parts of Przemysl - Krakow will be for 160 km/h also from December.
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« Reply #24 on: 20.09.17 , 20:09 »
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Как то так. Хотел понимать что нам предстоит. Сообщите если есть ошибки. Updated.
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« Reply #25 on: 21.09.17 , 10:09 »
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1. it's not mandatory insert tables as picture. It's doable using table, tr and td in square brackets http://forum.railwayclub.info/index.php?topic=27224.0

2. I'm almost sure 7 min change in Przemysl will not be allowed. Either IC+715 will have the departure time shifted few minutes backward (to 12:59 for example, so cathing it will be possible only by arrival by previous IC, which arrive to Przemysl at 11:54) or even if such change will remain physically possible - there will be the warning that "reccomended" train for coming to catch the IC+715 is is the train arriving to Przemysql at 11:54 and those who arrive by train 13:00 do it on their own risk.
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« Reply #26 on: 21.09.17 , 16:09 »
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Thanks. Krasnoshtan recently told me that me thought 7 minutes was fine for the change in Przemysl. But at that point we discussed westbound connections, meaning that he said it would be OK if PKP halted the departure of their trains, pointing that they had done so in the past (throughout 2017).
The question is whether he is inclined to halt the departure of his own, UZ's, trains the 3-5-7 minutes extra it will take all passengers to make it to the 715 IC+ :)
The Poles are unlikely to change their schedule since they are aiming a "tact" time table, with departures from Krakow towards Przemysl at minute 07 every one or second hour.
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« Reply #27 on: 21.09.17 , 16:09 »
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Thanks. Krasnoshtan recently told me that me thought 7 minutes was fine for the change in Przemysl.
Did he meant Przemysl as it is now or Przemysl as it could be in unindefinitely remote future, in case of adequate rebuilding of entrances to this stupid platform 4.
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« Reply #28 on: 21.09.17 , 16:09 »
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also good question if you correctly understood each other.
"thought 7 minutes was fine for the change" could have 2 different meanings:
1). connection between trains which have scheduled departure of train 2 in 7 minutes after arrival of train 1
2). the scheduled gap was bigger, but due to late of train 1 - train 2 was halted, providing de-facto 7 min between arrival of train 1 and departure of train 2.

(1) and (2) are not the same thing.
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« Reply #29 on: 21.09.17 , 17:09 »
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He meant a scheduled changing window of 7 minutes based on the actual 2017 experience / procedure at Przemysl, your option 1.
But this was about the opposite direction, where the PKP schedule is stretched and the trains have a good opportunity to eliminate delays along the route, I would add.
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