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Andersen
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« on: 13.02.18 , 19:02 »
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Dear forum

What is most picturesque, convenient and cheapest railway route from (Copenhagen-) Hamburg - Firenze (-Pisa) involving overnight train?
The travel date is April 7.
Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: 13.02.18 , 20:02 »
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obviously - via Bernina pass is #1, but this way will be abit long. Nightjet Hamburg - Augsburg - then either via Lindau.
 Or via Konstanz - in thiscase or start by NightJet Hamburg - Offenburg, line Offenburg - Konstanz is very picturesque, but arrival time of NJ to Offenburg is abit too early.
In both cases - continue via Chur - St Moritz - Tirano. But this way is quite slow and not sure if convenient. But many opportunities of stopover on the way (for example Strasbourg as site trip from Offenburg).

Next one - and the most logical probably via Brenner pass, the most logical way. But of course you should overcome Innsbruck - Bozen/Bolzano section during daytime, so you use overnight train between Hamburg and Innsbruck, but not between Munich and Firenze.
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« Reply #2 on: 14.02.18 , 00:02 »
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I would love to do the first option through st. Moritz but I am asking on behalf of a female friend, it might be too much of a hassle for her.
But which option is better - insbruch - Verona or Zürich - Milano?
Any idea on how to cut the ticket, in which segments?
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« Reply #3 on: 14.02.18 , 00:02 »
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All Zuerich - Milano direct services operate now via newly built Gotthard-Basistunnel. So no views on Apls while crossing the highest place, simply 60 km of black walls of tunnel.
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« Reply #4 on: 18.02.18 , 00:02 »
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Any idea on how to cut the ticket, in which segments?
all is obvous.
Separately - ticket for NightJet Hamburg - Innsbruck.

On section Innsbruck - Italy - do according to how many stopovers on the way you need, i.e. where is the closest place where you stop.

Minimal price (if you book in 92 days in advance, but postponed date of commence of sale are typical for those ECs) depends on how far you travel:
Innsbruck - Bozen/Bolzano 9 EUR
Innsbruck - Trento 14 EUR
Innsbruck - Rovereto 14 EUR
Innsbruck - Verona 19 EUR
Innsbruck - Bologna 24 EUR
buy at oebb.at

for the remaining part - see prices and book (make sence only for long-distance trains, regional are easily purchasable in machine before departure) via trenitalia.com.
On section Verona - Firenze - high speed trains of italotreno.it are also available. Anyway everything is not pricey.
Typcial price approach for domestic ICs in Itally is following - lowest possible price in case of early booking for distances under 350 km is 9,9 EUR, for distances over 350 km - 19,9 EUR.
For the ECs coming from  Munich - if you use them for domestic travel within Italy - 9,9 EUR for travel to 200 km or less or 19,9 for travel over 200 km.
For Freccia-... trains - prices are normally higher. Prices under 14,9 EUR for Freccia trains are not constantly available, even for short distance, it's kinda temporary attractions (but they appear from time to time quite often, sometimes on specific relations, sometimes on specific days
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Please note, on section Bologna and Firenze - high speed trains (.italo and Trenitalia's FrecciaArgenta and FrecciaRossa) go via tunnel, while IC and regional trains cross Appenin Mountains using old road via Prato, it's via mountain pass. this explain the difference in travel time (34-37 min by high speed trains, 53 min by IC, from 1:40 by Regional)
Travel via tunnel is faster, but you loose all scenery. But this pass is not very high though so it's not very scenic.
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« Reply #5 on: 05.03.18 , 14:03 »
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for the remaining part - see prices and book (make sence only for long-distance trains, regional are easily purchasable in machine before departure) via trenitalia.com.

DB Counters and machines should be able to sell


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78205 I 81 Firenze*empol*Pisa Centrale

at 8,40.

Regards, ULF
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« Reply #6 on: 05.03.18 , 15:03 »
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purchasing Firenze - Pisa Centrale from DB doesn't provide advantages comparing to Firenze - Pisa Centrale from Trenitalia. Price is the same. Bigger validity period of international ticket from DB - doesn't provide advantages on this route.
Ticket purchased for DB could be much more useful than domestically purchased in case when validity period of domestic ticket is not enough for desired time of stopover on some intermediate station.
For example if somebody with to travel from Firenze to Lucca with stopover in Prato - the same price (7,6 in both cases), but domestically purchased ticket is valid only 4 hours after validation, which doesn't allow to explore Prato propertly, while purchased from DB - doesn't require validation and is valid 1 whole day.

Lower price (for few tenth of cents though) of international ticket comparing to domestic ticket to regional rain for single leg travel is possible only in some regions of Italy - like Veneto (for example Venezia Mestre - Ferrara - 8,2 EUR international tariff, 8,4 EUR - domestic tariff. AFAIK in Tuscany - no such disparity.
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