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Jerome
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« on: 22.08.18 , 20:08 »
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Hello everybody

I search informations about Motorail Service in Ukraine in 2000 years (2003 to 2009)
I am searching witch relations existed (Maybe with timetables too) and days of running

Thank you if you can give me some informations

Best regards

Jerome  from France
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« Reply #1 on: 23.08.18 , 15:08 »
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First regular motorail service appeard in Ukraine in 2002 when first daytime intercity-like train appeared - between Kyiv and Kharkiv. At the beginning it was 1 pair of train, later the 2nd pair added. Train number in those time was 161/162 and 163/164. Motorail cars wasn't present since first day of operation but was added slightly later.
In 2003 - also daytime intercity-like train between Kyiv and dnipro appeared and also both pairs got motorail cars (train number in those years were 165/166 and 167/168).
Also overnight train 11/12 Kyiv - Simferopol got motorail car in those years.
As fair as I remember there were no other permanent regular operation of motorail cars  till 2009. Only those 5 pars of trains (4 pairs of daytime trains and 1 pair overnight train) had motorail cars, i.e. only 6 motorail cars was in operation (1 car for each of daytime train pair and 2 cars for overnight train, because 11/12 being overnight train need 2 trainsets to provide daily operation).
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« Reply #2 on: 23.08.18 , 15:08 »
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upd - in some of winters (in 2006 and may be in some of years after it, but not each year) there was attempts to include motorail car to train 81/82 Kyiv - Uzhhorod. Motorail car was taken from 11/12 (i.e. in days when 81/82 got it - 11/12 operated without it). Operation was not daily, but 2 times per week (i.e. 11/12 had motorail car not daily, but 5 times per week in those times).
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« Reply #3 on: 23.08.18 , 22:08 »
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First regular motorail service appeard in Ukraine in 2002 when first daytime intercity-like train appeared - between Kyiv and Kharkiv. At the beginning it was 1 pair of train, later the 2nd pair added. Train number in those time was 161/162 and 163/164. Motorail cars wasn't present since first day of operation but was added slightly later.
Я не пам'ятаю, щоб харківський столичний експрес у нульових ходив з автомобілевозом. А ось «Південний експрес» на Сімферополь мав такий вагон з першого дня курсування.
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« Reply #4 on: 25.08.18 , 17:08 »
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Я не пам'ятаю, щоб харківський столичний експрес у нульових ходив з автомобілевозом.
Ходив. Це був перший досвід запуску спеціально перобладнаного автомобілевоза в пасажирському поїзді.
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Jerome
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« Reply #5 on: 25.08.18 , 18:08 »
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Hello,

Thanks a lot Maxy and Sargis for your precious informations.
I think that the beginning was in 2003, i don’t know that the real beginning was 2002.

Do you think that the debut of the night service Kiev - Simferopol was in 2002 too ?

For the 2010 years, i have found some  informations on the web in Ukrainian Train Timetables on pdf files (Big thanks to those who get them on the web !!). But for the 2000 years, there are very difficult to found.

Jerome from France
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